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If you’re unhappy with your prayer life, you join a lot of us. And Pastor John has a word for us. On December 28, 2008, he preached a sermon on prayer titled “Put in the Fire for the Sake of Prayer.” In it, he lamented the pervasiveness of prayerlessness among Christians, a complaint of many Christians, even of those in his own church (as you will hear him talk about in a moment). So how do we kickstart this essential discipline in our lives in order to exercise our faith? He offered three practical suggestions. Here’s Pastor John.

Three Suggestions

Let me give you a few practical suggestions. These are growing out of my life and out of my reading of the Bible. Just three brief, practical suggestions because many of us are not doing as well as we should.

1. Set aside a time and a place to pray, and don’t leave it to chance.

The devil defeats most praying before it happens because we didn’t make a plan. I have been at this a long time, and the devil hates me and my prayer life. You wouldn’t believe how many good things keep me from praying. Not sin. Sin does not keep me from praying. Righteousness keeps me from praying — answering holy emails and other holy things, like just checking out one more piece of relevant news to pray about at whatever news service you click on.

It’s not evil that keeps us from praying; it’s good things. And the devil is shrewd to the bottom. So, pick a place and pick a time and show up.

2. Combine your praying with reading the Bible.

Take what you read in the Bible and turn it into prayer, because your brain, if it’s a typical human brain, will have a very hard time holding a train of thought while you pray if you don’t have help from the Bible. Try it for just ten minutes without your brain flipping out onto the dust you see on the venetian blinds. It needs to be dusted. It wouldn’t be sin to get up and dust it, would it? Use the Bible and turn the Bible into prayer. Read, pray; read, pray; read, pray; read, pray as long as you want to or can.

3. Pray in concentric circles.

I suggest that you pray in concentric circles. You can pray either from the outside in or the inside out. What I mean by concentric circles is this: I’m the neediest spiritual person I know — at least I know my sins better than I know anybody else’s — so I pray about me a lot. “Have mercy upon me; convict me; kill me; change me; guard me; humble me; destroy those aspects of me.” I pray about me a lot because of how sinful I am.

And then I move out from me to my family. I pray about Noël, pray about Talitha, all my sons, all my daughters-in-law, all my grandchildren. That’s another circle. Then I move out from there to the staff. I can name the staff and the elders. Then I move out to you, the church. And then I move out from there to the wider movement of Christ around the world: our missionaries and the whole global cause of Christ. Then I move out from there to the political-historical arena of the world.

I don’t pray about galaxies or anything like that. My universe, as far as prayer goes, stops pretty much at the planet. I don’t pray for the devil or angels. I don’t see any reason for doing that in the Bible. Or you could go the other direction, move from the outside in.

And if you wonder, “Why don’t you put God at the middle?” it’s because he’s in every circle, and the main point of every circle is: “Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done.” And only then do you get to “Give me some bread today.” “Your name hallowed, your kingdom arriving, your will done on the planet the way it’s done in heaven, and in my life.” Those are in every circle. That’s why he’s not anywhere in the concentric circles.

Limited Prayer, Weak Passion

The hard truth is we Christians don’t do very well. We’ve done some surveys over the years at Bethlehem, and it’s pretty sad when we do them. I don’t like to do them. I get discouraged. We don’t pray very much. We pray at meals, maybe, unless we’re still stuck at the adolescent stage that thinks good habits are legalism. We may whisper prayers before a tough meeting that we’re walking into. We may throw God a kiss as we crawl into bed.

But we don’t set aside significant, regular, daily, disciplined time to pray in those ways much. And we don’t think it’s worth it to meet with others to pray, by and large. And we wonder: Why is my faith weak? Why is my hope feeble? Why is my passion for Christ small?

Delight in the Discipline

Meanwhile, the devil is whispering in your ear, to some of you, “The pastor’s getting legalistic now. He’s moving into the legalistic phase of the sermon. He’s starting to use guilt now. He’s getting the law out now.” To which I say, “To hell with the devil and all of his destructive lies.” Be free, Bethlehem.

Is intentional, regular, disciplined, earnest, Christ-dependent, God-glorifying, joyful prayer a duty, a discipline? Do I go to prayer meetings Tuesday morning, Wednesday afternoon, Friday morning, Saturday afternoon, and Sunday morning because it’s a duty, out of discipline? You could call it that.

  • It’s a duty the way it’s a duty for a scuba diver to put on his air tank before he goes underwater.
  • It’s a duty the way pilots should listen to air-traffic controllers.
  • It’s a duty the way soldiers in combat should clean their rifles and load their guns.
  • It’s a duty the way hungry people eat food.
  • It’s a duty the way thirsty people drink water.
  • It’s a duty the way a deaf man puts on his hearing aid.
  • It’s a duty the way a diabetic takes his insulin.
  • It’s a duty the way Winnie the Pooh looks for honey.
  • It’s a duty the way pirates look for gold.

So, you could call it duty if you want. It is like that. But I hate the devil. I hate the way he’s killing some of you by persuading you it’s legalistic to do regular, set-aside, disciplined praying. I hate the devil and the way he’s killing you. He is laughing up his sleeve at how easy he can take out Christians. He is laughing up his sleeve at what suckers we are for his worn-out “legalism.”

You should just look at him and say, “I’m older than that. I’m not in fifth grade anymore. I’ve grown up a little bit. Get out of my life. I’ve got work to do because I am a sinner in desperate need of talking to my King every day, and my sin inclines me to leave it over and over. If I don’t set a time and a place, I’m a goner.” Talk to the devil. Give him some information. He might leave you alone for a while. Probably not.

Folks, if we don’t eat, we starve. If we don’t drink, we die of thirst. If we don’t exercise a muscle, it atrophies. If we don’t breathe, we suffocate. Just as there are physical means of life, there are spiritual means of grace. It’s so simple.